This American Apocalypse
Mark Steyn
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Like me, you probably spend your time trawling the Internet for new people to get angry at. As the whole “99% vs 1%” meme has grown, I have begun compiling a list of people who will eventually have to be guillotined in the upcoming Terror. It is with regret that I must add Mark Steyn’s name to the list.
Mark Steyn is simply the most erudite, convivial conservative asshole I have yet encountered in virtual reality. I even came  close to not calling him an asshole! But eventually, I chose to place him in the same category I reserve for nearly every arch-conservative, from Malkin to Hannity to Medved, and yes, even the diplomatic Dennis Prager. After listening to hours of Steyn, I am forced to conclude that there is simply no distinction between the shrieking eels of Fox News and the more refined conservatives who pour honey in our ears. Their hearts are still as black and wormy as the rest.
What makes me lump Mark Steyn in with the rotten fruit of Glenn Beck and Michael Savage is his bigotry. You see, after a decade plus of our nation marching its boots up and down the streets of two Muslim nations, it takes a pair of watermelons between the legs–Â we’re talking State Fair quality–to bitch about a few Muslims living here in the in the West at our invitation. But bitch he does, and every chance he gets.
Muslims are Steyn’s speciality. Like most conservative chatterers, Steyn letters in one or two bumper sticker issues to distinguish himself from the herd. But don’t get him confused with talk radio’s bombastic good ol’ boys! Mark Steyn is that perfect conservative: the one completely unaware that he bears exactly the same pedigree as those Berkely poofters who wrinkle his widdle nose. He is a professor, a writer, a Broadway musicals groupie… a guy who strikes you as the sort who would refuse to drop a tip at a restaurant if his tilapia came festooned with one too many capers. In other words, he is exactly the same number of push-ups away from Navy SEAL territory as Noam Chomsky.
I scarcely need to justify myself further when I point out that Steyn is a regular guest host for Rush Limbaugh, but something about Mark’s polished, englishy voice (he is actually Canadian) made me want to give him the benefit of the doubt. And so I listened to him pimp his new book “After America: Get Ready for Armaggedon” for three hours on C-Span’s In Depth program on Book TV, and in doing so I realized that what conservatism’s famous bluster hides is a deep-seated pessimism completely at odds with their “American Exceptionalism” propaganda.
This surprised me, actually. The right always projects a kind of hopefulness about dragging the nation up from the mud and rekindling some lost revolutionary spirit. This is why Saint Reagan figures so prominently in their rhetoric, all that “shining city on a cliff” bullshit. In fact, Reagan is the pristine example of what is wrong with conservatism, which is its despondency and backward-lookingness, and  Mark Steyn is a true prophet of our yesterdays. Just take a look at his recent reflections on America:
Wow! Pour me three fingers of cyanide! Folks, don’t let anyone tell you that the “hate America” crowd is liberal. It’s Debbie Downers like Steyn who can’t wait to rush America into a coffin.
So Steyn wears his heart on his dust jackets, and it is a heart of darkness. but the question is why? We’re all familiar with slanderous books like Jonah Goldberg’s Liberal Facism or Anne Coulter’s Godless: The Church of Liberalism. It’s the pablum that “culture war” conservatives feed on. But conservatism also has a new defeatist wing, epitomized by Steyn but with help from the likes of Mark Levin (Ameritopia: The Unmaking of America) and Pat Buchanan (Suicide of a Superpower). I’m used to books that suggest that America is on the ropes but ready to rise again in glory thanks to some hillbilly on a white charger, but never have such apocalyptic titles emerged from people who weren’t Hal Lindsay!
What Steyn disclosed to me–by being listenable– is that conservatives, never endowed with a trailblazing attitude, are now simply giving up and letting nostalgia curdle into despair. What good is retaliation for 9/11 when Muslims are allowed to breed as wantonly as they care to in the Netherlands? What is the purpose in passing something like Arizona’s “Paper’s Please” law into existence when another branch of the government can declare its provisions unconstitutional? Even the Tea Party can’t daub Mark’s tears. Oh sure, they look great in their breeches and tricorns, but the debt can’t be wished away with fife music!
And when does Steyn think America’s decline began? Color me shocked, but it was on New Year’s Eve, 1959! Before that, Western Civilization was cranking out never before seen wonders, like refrigerators, and curing diseases faster than you could name them!
But today? The cars are still driving on wheels, and the human genome project hasn’t erased even a single plague! Surely this inertia bespeaks extinction-level ennui. As Steyn puts it, “There has to be more to a society than inventing a slightly smaller device on which to download Justin Bieber…and I don’t think we’re making progress on that front.”
This is where a thousand educated words cannot disguise a brain full of ignorance. How the hell can any intelligent person reduce the past quarter century of technology, where every year is practically a new Millennium, to Justin Bieber? Â “The telephones have buttons instead of a dial, but basically nothing much has changed,” says Steyn, reflecting on our modern toys. Yeah, phones have buttons. Oh, and they are wireless, Â the size of a grain of rice, Â you can use them in the middle of the fucking desert and they contain the sum of all human knowledge. Do they need to turn lead into gold before they impress you, guy?
Steyn’s lament on the state of medicine is even more risable. Yes, the bugs and germs of the early 20th century were the low hanging fruit and cancer is a stickier wicket, but shit! He’s wrong there too! They only just invented a vaccine for the human papillomavirus, which causes cervical cancer, so how can …oh wait. Refusing that good news was the conservatives’ opening move in their current War on Vaginas.
Okay, forget that. How about this fellow? He just had his face rebuilt after losing most of it in a shotgun accident. Now he can be seen in public after fifteen years of looking like a Basil Wolverton cartoon! You couldn’t fix that in the roaring 50’s, although you could throw tomatoes at a black girl for wanting to attend a public school in Alabama!
There’s a reason why the perception of America’s decline is acute amongst conservatives, and that is because the conservative bubble has popped twice, once on  9/11 and again in the Crisis of ’08. Worse, the end of the delusion both of America’s untouchability and the virtue of unfettered capitalism happened on the watch of the Conservative Dream Ticket. Don’t let the right wing tell you different: Bush/Cheney was conservative Camelot. Taxes on the rich sank to near zero, Saddam had his neck stretched, the American eagle dropped her olive branch and doubled down on arrows and the President took Christ off the cross and put Darwin in his place! Together with the Rubberstamp Congress, this was THE Republican moment.
And by the end, if giant spiders had been seen rampaging through San Francisco it would have been par for the course. Even that last stronghold of Western supremacy, white supremacy, had to be surrendered.
So I don’t blame Mark Steyn or the rest of his brood for being depressed. Conservatism has fucked itself in every hole it had, and they still have another election to forfeit!
So slip a toetag on Uncle Sam if you must, Mark, and dress your garden variety xenophobia in the trappings of some Islamist plot. Daydream about a coup where reactionaries and revanchists somehow move beyond talk radio to conquer Hollywood and pop music. Masturbate over the End of Days! Everyone needs a hobby. Liberals have never prevented a war, and conservatives have never stemmed the tide of history, but they must both always pretend that they have it in them.
don’t worry too much about it. his brain operates on a level that does connect with yours. kind of like trying to upload a picture via a non existant bluetooth signal
Wow, you’re no genius, are you?
You’re trying too hard to write like Steyn, but your leftist crank sophistry comes through loud and loud. The man whose face was reconstructed was not produced by Obamacare, nor was the vaccine you mentioned. And the Muslim problem is not as innocuous as you would have readers believe; Steyn is right on them as well qand he’s right about the debt and the state of civilization in general. You should be thankful to him. Your website will get a lot of visits because you wrote about him.
JY: You are right. The vaccine, the face transplant and the anti-rejection drugs that will keep the man’s new face attached to his head are not products of Obamacare. They are the result of the medical technology that Mark Steyn thinks has not budged an inch since the polio vaccine.
Why is that you folks always have to use the f-word? As soon as I see it peppered through an article, I dismiss it, I know what comes with it. Leftist junk.
Maybe when the liberal thought police come after you for publishing hate speech, which you clearly do, you will realize that these ‘hatemongers’ you named were trying to save you by fighting for your write (yes, that was misspelled on purpose) to say h8ful things on the interwebs. Or maybe they’ll just shut you down, like they tried to do Mark Styne. At least he’s fought the real fight against thought police – you are still bitching about people saying what they really believe while you say what you really believe with fingers in your ears.
Don’t think that when you start bitching about the next attempt to ‘regulate’ the internet, you won’t be next.
Be a nice little lemming, say what the people in charge want you to say…
A couple of other commenters here have pointed out the futility of trying to bag Steyn while attempting – unsuccessfully – to match his wit. What strikes me more, however, is how you almost deliberately appear to miss the point. It leaves your post without any real substance, whether one was minded to agree with you or, like me, vehemently disagree.
Comparing writing style, I’d say Steyn follows his arguments with facts and wit, whereas you follow yours with f-words and petulant insults.
Enjoy you 15 minutes.
So you never really READ any of his books? LOL. That’s all I need to know about YOU and your opinions.
I agree that Steyn can be a buit wearing. I also take your point re Iraq and Afghanistan. Furthermore, I grew up in a Muslim country and loved it – but it was the tolerant Bahrain on the 1970s and 1980s, where pork and beer were on sale and the Arabs were very friendly as long as you respected the public sphere.
However.
Here in the UK, a lunatic called George Galloway has just been elected as a member of parliament by a largely Muslim electorate in a town called Bradford.
There’s nothing wrong with that – except that you don’t want to be gay, or a woman, or a Jew, or to like a drink or a bet on the horses, and live in certain parts of Bradford. (Or many other English cities.)
At some point – and I think this is Steyn’s argument – the freedoms we have hitherto taken for granted in the West will disappear (either in specific places or, conceivably, in whole countries) under a religious blanket dating from 1,000-odd years ago.
This isn’t pessimism or exaggeration: it is happening, now.
Walk through Brick Lane in London dressed in pink lame shorts (whether you’re male or female) and see where you end up.
Try to open a betting shop or a pub in certain parts of Blackburn.
The tolerance of (I’m sure) good and well-meaning people such as you is creating the space for a truly horrific situation to develop, I think.
I’m not sure what the answer is and I don’t think Steyn is, either; but raising the question is a start.
May every time you experience a puppy’s sweet breath bring about thoughts of Michele Malkin to you, to even suggest tilapia served with capers deserves a tip.
Your writing is vulgar. If you won’t learn anything from Steyn’s articles could you at least learn to mimic his style?
Jealous of Mark, ah? Afraid of him, ah? Be afraid of all of us because we are getting stronger and stronger.
JY: Bob the Angry Flower is the only flora I fear.
Man, you are one angry hater.
So basically your argument is that conservatives worry about the future and that’s why they suck?
Funny
JY: I believe I was implying that conservatives worry about the past because they think the future sucks, but thanks for the parting compliment!
Wow… you are a sad strange little man.
The deep narcissism of the left is its defining feature, expressed in insulting, condescending language towards those of the right. Those who are most concerned about intolerance are usually the ones exhibiting it. I invite any and all to review the demographic arguments Steyn makes, and then refute them, if you can.
Thanks for the post. I love Mark Steyn. You can always recognize a leftist by the name calling and insults. Never a cogent argument from your side.
Frankly, I’m surprised you’ve spent as much time as you have _not_ despising Steyn. His vile bigotry has been unrepentantly on display for _years_. But I can explain to you why he & his ilk do what they do (and get paid for it)…
Philosophically, conservativism is just that – conservative. Against major changes. In favor of maintaining the status quo. That’s neither a great thing nor a terrible thing by itself – it’s just a position. But Steyn (and Limbaugh, and Beck, and the entire Republican party) implement their conservativism by pure fear – making as many people as possible DEATHLY AFRAID OF THE DIFFERENT! It’s the only way they can exist…
Do you people commenting here read Deep Fried? Who the fuck are you? Maybe some of you just read Weapon Brown as a violent libertarian fantasy and completely miss the bigger picture. I’ve never seen as much idiocy and point missing as in some of these comments. JY – a brilliant analysis as always.
Captcha, I can’t even read that shit. Machines are not that smart, you’re trying too damn hard.
Excellent post.
I have to admit, as a Steyn fan I got a kick out of this. I doubt the Muslims will.
Thanks for adding two books to my reading list. I love a good culture war.
Wow Muslims are no deal in the Netherlands? In my home town of Eindhoven, my little cousin gets spat on and called a slut and whore for not wearing a birka. How tolerant of them! More than half of her class is Muslim. There are only three little girls that do not wear a birka! And they are just in junior high! This is in the Netherlands! And they follow the desert tribal version of Islam that includes killing for honor, rape and includes the cutting of little girls clitorises. Tolerance is mighty though. No worries! Move along!
What a load of BS this article is. First, when it comes time to do the guillotining, remember it’s US conservative NRA members who have the guns so let’s be honest about who’s going to the French Barbor and who isn’t. Second, when we cut through the ad hominem attacks on Steyn what are we left with to specifically argue against ANY of the points Steyn offers up in EITHER book – iPhones and cancer treatments, oh and some babble about Muslims procreating in the streets. Well, regarding the iPhone, yes, it’s a fantastic invention which Steyn ACKNOWLEDGES but where are all the other Sci-Fi do-dads we’re supposed to have by now. We could be living on the moon right now if there was a financial incentive to do so – i.e. He3 fusion generators. However, since both reactors and private launch facilities are illegaql we wont’ be going there! THAT’S what Steyn was getting at with that observation – that we don’t have all these do-dads and who-has not because they’re higher-hanging fruit but due to government incompetence. Do you think it was THAT much easier to purify insulin in the early 20s with their technology then it was to develop the HPV vaccine with our current technology? No, they both took about the same amout of time, the difference was that back then there was no FDA so the product went from the lab to the pharmacy in two years versus the 12 years it takes currently – and how many people die in the meantime waiting for cancer meds that sit in the lab ’till a decade of studies confirms they work? Which is the more humane route, tens of thousands duying for certain in agony or maybe a few hundred being affected by side-effects? To get to your third “proof” about Muslims, go to Europe today. Read about all the crimes/problems/murders/terrorist bombings/etc. they’ve had in Europe. Steyn is just using the dry demographic data. Sorry, thems the statistics. You can’t argue with the numbers. They are what they are and labeling Steyn a racist for stating them isn’t going to change the statistics. I don’t know what you people are trying to accomplish with your absolute hatred and mocking contempt for people who happen to hold a different opinions than yourself but just mocking and dismissing those who’s opinion differs from your own isn’t going to win you any arguments.
JY: Outside of a creating a cult of worship around Gene Roddenberry, I don’t know how anyone can say what technology we “should” have by now. Is there some law that a flying car that folds into a suitcase is mandatory by the year 2012 or else our nation is backsliding? Was that one of Eintsein’s predictions?
And as for automobiles (just to name one gadget that has been transformed in the last half century), they are now literally bursting with safety features, have dashboards that look like the bridge of the Enterprise, are navigated by satellites and will soon be completely electric. I’d call that more than a modest improvement.
As for medicine, given the bible of side effects that all today’s miracle drugs come with (“Ask your doctor if our anti-depressant that causes suicide is right for you!”), I think the FDA is probably better off taking its sweet time in the approval process. Steyn also seems to want to have it both ways: whining that medical technology is not pulling its weight, but also grousing that the government is keeping miracle panaceas from reaching the market. Which is it? Is Glaxo out of ideas, or is the FDA keeping the cure for earwax under lock and key?
Legion; But Steyn (and Limbaugh, and Beck, and the entire Republican party) implement their conservativism by pure fear\n
Implement their conservatism? How so? Are they in government? Do they have control of the airwaves? Do they have supernatural power? You don’t have to listen to Limbaugh or read Steyn. Are you not ascribing an inordinate (for you lefties that means excessive) amount of power to Limbaugh & Steyn? From whence do they derive this power? It couldn’t be through the force of their arguments perhaps? You lefties are always weak on the facts which is why your defining characteristic is ad-hominem attacks and attempts to close down debate rather than engage in it. If their views frighten you, stop listening to them you delicate thing.
Very funny. Assuming this isn’t meant as satire, you are the kind of token liberal every good conservative media outlet should have one or two of, kind of the “loyal opposition” thing. Well done. Hope Steyn’s linking to you does you good.
Your blog post was a pointless obscenity filled screed but at least you have allowed dissent in the comment section.
Wow, it looks like I’m the third regular reader to comment on this post. Don’t take their hate personally, Jason (or do – whatever feeds your muse), this essay was a twinkling gem. I wonder who organized this little blog-bombing.
Not a bad summary of Mark Steyn; in a mirror universe kind of way.
I didn’t have high hopes when your article started with reference to those you feel need to be guillotined, but you limboed below even my low expectations.
You seem to have systematically missed every single point mark makes. And when you can’t refute because the point is so sharp for even you to miss, you resort to witless insults and swearing.
Bravo Sir, Bravo.
One observation.
When a Liberal enquires, the foundation of that enquiry is about how one feels or how the feelings of others might be impacted or influenced.
When a conservative enquires, the foundation is thought and influence over the circumstances themselves. This means something might actually be done about poor circumstances as oppossed to modifying ones feelings about them.
This is where the clash is.
Conservatives will take action to improve the situation. They may fail at times. Sometimes it’s worse. But ar least an attempt is made and progress championed.
Liberals? AAarrggghhh. They’ve given up. So therefore demand that you learn how to feel good about it. This is acheived by dismantling any argument that attempts to modify the circumstances.
The glass is half full. That doesn’t matter! How do you feel about the glass imprisomng the lquid unjustifiably?
The galss is half empty. This doesn’t matter either. Now the liquid has been liberated, is uncontained and unrestricted. Free to persue any agenda it wishes, regardless of outcome.
You need to modify your outlook and emotional response, rather then contain the lquid.
See? I can talk as much crap as any liberal
But, the question is… Are circumstances better or worse for you and your family’s wellbeing?
I’ll show you how to make it better. A liberal will tell you if you don’t feel better about your circumstances there’s something wrong with and you and your family, you’ve failed and the family police need to take over the governance of your family.
Me and the NRA might have something to say about that.
God, I just read all the comments. You yanks conservatives sickens me. Did social progress stopped with the 50 rights movements? You spend ridiculous amount of money on fake threats which only to serve to make the richs richer and the already poor miserable. Steyn, this sophist, (yes I’m going there, this man is a sophist He is all wind.) is basically write the yank versions of “Mein Kamph”, drivels tailor made for reactionaries, and you encense him? Y’know, I wasn’t caring much about the independance of Québec, but seeing that the rest of Canada is starting to share your conservative stances, I just see it’s only but survival. You people are unhinge, underfed and undereducated; you ARE going to do something really, really stupid that you will regret. This is going to be worst than the criminal wars you just committed.
“This is where a thousand educated words cannot disguise a brain full of ignorance.” Irony of ironies! There are certainly more than a thousand words here, albeit not “educated”ones, but not a shred of research and not one idea that you can offer to counter any of Mark Steyn’s insightful arguments. Mr. Steyn is not anti-Muslim. He is anti-Islamism and anti-sharia law. And, when he describes the consequences of global demographics, he does so in the context of what characterizes Islamic countries – which he has visited, by the way. Before you so superficially and condescendingly dismiss Mr. Steyn, you might want to read his books a little more carefully.
What a heavy weight piece of shit this article is!
I kept reading hoping to see that the writer would engage any point that Steyn makes.
But as Steyn repeatedly shows, the Left seeks to sabotage the debate even before it starts.
If you’ll grant that this is a polemic, and not a doctoral thesis, I think you will find that I treat with Mark Steyn’s core arguments several times. The decline of the West, her emasculation, her nations’ shores swamped by immigrants… what jingoist in history hasn’t had these gripes embossed on their business cards?
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My take away from this, is that cars still have wheels and somehow the backwardsness of conservatives is the reason. Is that close? If so, I posit that the abscence of flying cars and all manner of real progress can be layed directly at the feet of liberals and their new deal, great society debacles.
Untold billions and trillions of dollars have gone down the drain. Said billions and trillions stolen from the productive side of the economy and poured into the non-productive side.
Is the war on poverty over? Did we win?
Mr. Steyn’s books and articles always have a pro America bent and are not in the least pessimistic. If any thing they are a call to arms to protect this last bastion of semi-freedom, the single candle of liberty guttering in the winds of liberalism and the hot air of the tools of the international socialist conspiracy.
That’s you and your kind, the kind that can equate Mr. Steyn’s considered and staid opinions as hate speech but the racist and nihilistic ramblings of the New Black Panther Party as a cry for help from the poor and disenfranchised.
Question (and this goes for anyone, liberal, conservative, socialist, communist, fascist, pro-Steyn, anti-Steyn): does anyone out there actually believe America’s best days lie ahead?
Yes! I fervently believe Americas best days lie ahead. One day our great grandkids will look back at these past 90 or so years, minus the fifties, as a sort of mass lunacy. It is my hope that history and common sense will set aside this experiment in liberalism run amok, by both sides of the political spectrum, return to the common sense notion of you eat what you kill(earn). Render unto Caesar, yes. However the greater part the fruit of a persons labor, either physical or intellectual remains his to do with as he will.
In that great glorious day it won’t be a sin to honestly earn your pile and earning enough will be determined by your ability, not some arbitrary limit set by some strutting martinet in Washington. Americas best day are indeed ahead of her. Nature and natures God will not allow this last hope of mankind to perish, because if this flame goes out it will never be relit. It took ten thousand years to get it lit this time. Do you think mankind has another ten thousand years in it? Now imagin that withouttue example of the United States. Scary.
I don’t understand. Steyn links to your article on the main page of his web site and you only get a little over 30 comments from his readers? You’d think with him supposedly being a popular conservative writer you’d get a few more hits than that.
Oh well, never heard of him before this and I don’t care if I never hear of him again.
Only 17 more days ’til my man Chuck returns! I patiently await.
JY: Thanks for the heads-up. I didn’t know Steyn had linked to ny editorial from his website (I thought these commentors all came courtesy of his Facebook page). I almost feel bad for the caricature now!
Well, first, thanks to Mark Steyn for linking you (and your three regulars) to his website. It’s nice to know he trolls places like yours with a free and open mind, like a questing knight and shining armor, while we little sycophant serfs tend the gardens behind the fortress walls. I, for one, am grateful for this brain candy of yours he plundered from the far-off lands of the infidels. As practical as they are, conservatives exhibit an aching lack of aesthetics in a horribly dystopian way (kind of like the Appian Way but with way less cool gory graphics. Very dismal aesthetics indeed, like the 9th-circle-of-Hell dismal actually–devoid of even the warmth of decadence. Talk about civilizational decline! Egad!) But I digress.
Second, I like your style and figurative language. It’s a more deliberative and erudite sphincter scraping than just the typical, tawdry, verbally challenged rantings out there, which is why I think you got linked to Mark’s site in the first place.
You know, as you stated, he’s not your usual boring conservative (what you call, “listenable”), and you should be immensely thankful that the comments you received actually stuck to your article and didn’t descend into personal witnessing accounts and Darwinian screeds. [Ahh shit! Some toothless barbarian scaled the wall before I could post this!] (Again, not your run-of-the-mill, rotten-fruit arch-conservative that Mark Steyn. He’s downright urbane and epicurean by conservative standards!) But, in defense of my overly sensitive commenters, I will say that just by the sheer merit of scoring a Mark Steyn link, we were all hot on the edge of our seats expecting a lot more from you than what you gave us.
You see, when Mark sets up countervailing arguments, he builds them sky high–so high that the eye can’t see. Then, when prevailing upon them with his own position, he just smites them dead and burns then to a crisp in his unique vernacular style. It’s quite fun to read! It’s like a graphic novel for really boring people–with no pictures. This is where you are open for ridicule from his fans. While the differing positions in your article are well placed, your development of them is on a much smaller scale than what Steyn fans are accustomed. He sets up mountains before torching them, whereas you just set up some little anthills. To the observant Steyn reader, it just looks like you are randomly torching stuff like a pyromaniac. They can’t see your anthills. Perhaps Steyn will try his hand at some graphic artwork one day. Imagine how fertile the field for ridicule then! (But wait! There was that Christmas CD…)
As for shoring up one of your arguments, I will be the first to say that I think Mark Steyn’s technology argument was one of his weakest in “After America.” And while I think he jumped the tracks on the thesis a bit–shifting from technologic progress to cultural progress, or lack thereof; just as you, in turn, used that same criss-cross of tracks to your advantage weaving your cultural argument into his technical achilles heel–his core argument remains valid; albeit not cast in concrete anymore but in clay. And this is where you rightly pounce, but not in the way you are thinking.
Your own thesis of conservatives “giving up and letting nostalgia curdle into despair” is well taken and, whether or not you intended, advances the conversation quite well. While Mark Steyn’s reference of Justin Bieber showing up on increasingly smaller devices sticks its neck clean out for a good slicing on the technologic front, you yourself must admit, even the slightest bit, that if a world so technologically advanced as we have now can only offer up the likes of Justin Bieber and LMFAO as proof of concept, instead of say Bach and Duke Ellington, then we are on the wrong track, and rather than “giving up” so much, we conservatives are more inclined to abandon having gotten on the wrong track in the first place. But you are welcome to keep your current iTunes playlist if you like.
You wrote, “How the hell can any intelligent person reduce the past quarter century of technology, where every year is practically a new Millennium, to Justin Bieber?” This is what Mark calls “defining down of accomplishment.†(That phrase appears immediately before his singular Justin Bieber reference in “After America,” even though your quote is not taken from the book.) Or in my words, what has technology done to advance human expression rather than blunt it at every turn and dilute its meaning?
If I may analyze your craft for a moment, do you, yourself, draw on an iPad or tablet? A laptop? A CRT computer screen? A TV? No? Well, since only intelligent persons can see how far technology has come the past quarter century, then how far has the media by which you render your works progressed all these past twenty-five millennia? Are your markers, watercolors and pens still stuck in the 1950s? Why are you not with these awesome new Millennial times of human expression? Shouldn’t you be rubbing one out all over a Retina display by now? No? Why not? Are conservatives holding you back? Are they keeping you in the doldrums? Do they prevent you from advancing your craft? Is your 4G tablet covered in rotten 1950s tomatoes or something? Or are you just stuck in the 50s like Mark Steyn?
Many have fallen down this rabbit hole, drank the bottle of potion and actually think the world is growing larger around them when, in fact, quite the opposite is happening. All that purports to make us grow to our greatest potential is only shrinking our ability to ever achieve that potential at all. To allude to Gene Roddenberry as well, what good would Spock’s wireless, grain-of-rice-sized tricorder be in the middle of a desert planet if the only sum of all human knowledge it could queue up were Justin Bieber? I’m pretty sure that is the argument Mark Steyn was trying to make. Sorry you missed it.
To defeat your second counter-argument on our advanced states of medicine, I have three words: Autism – Dark Ages.
Oh, and for your last, most unfocused counterpoint on Islam – I hear there’s an opening for a comic artist at some obscure newspaper in Denmark. Apply now!
[Opinions aside, looks like you are getting pwned on sheer set theory here. Apologies to your fans. I know it must be ouchy.]
JY: Thanks for the essay, though it took me until you identified yourself as a conservative to gauge where your compass pointed.
I have not read Mark’s books, though I might now. His POV is pretty clear from his interviews, however. Perhaps Mark’s discourse on Justin Bieber is more illuminating in print, but I just don’t see his “defining down of accomplishment” as anything but sheer grousing. For every Mozart or Beethoven there have always been innumerable writers of pub music and bawdy limmericks. Great musicians still exist, and some pop musicians are great despite not being classical. The same goes for all areas of art and culture today: there is no shortage of brilliance in our modern times, and Mark could cite them easily if he was more attracted to greatness than to quick laughs at the expense of pop music’s flavors of the moment.
My playlist is stuffed with Steely Dan, thank you, but Bach and Ellington were separated by centuries, so you are only making my point for me. Where would music today be if not for the innovation of American blacks? How could jazz have emerged before America? Were Steyn less paranoid, he might even anticipate the new cultural amalgams that the Middle East might bring to Europe.
As for your paragraph about my “craft”, I’m sorry, I simply cannot decrypt your message. My art and the industry that supports it have, of course, been radically transformed by the computer, and for the better.
Poor writing style. Far too many exclamation points. Doesn’t flow logically and relies on explicatives as a crutch for poor writing.
Wowee. Looks like you hooked some live ones. Well done, Mr. Yungbluth. I come here for heaping helpings of liberal red meat to go along with my fix of Weapon Brown and Roadkill, and you did not disappoint.
And yes, Steyn is a festering piece of shit.
JY,
Thanks for the respectful, thoughtful and timely reply.
I understand your counter to Bach and Ellington. I was only arguing on Steyn’s point from the way I see it.
As for music and “new cultural amalgams that the Middle East might bring to Europe,” all I can say is, “Got Satch?” http://www.satriani.com He brings lots of eastern vibes in cool and heavy new ways to his legendary licks. Seek them out if you care to.
You got me on cryptic. I will not try to clarify. I confuse myself sometimes, but that doesn’t mean I don’t keep tryin’! Can’t just stick with the old boiler plate. That’s for losers.
ED
PS – I hope you inspire your fans to your level of thoughtfulness. I get the “red meat” aspect, but you easily command the ability to elevate as well.
How can you talk about Steyn’s views on American decline without mentioning the US’s European-like debt? Most economists would agree that it is hard for a nation to recover when its debt reaches 80-90% of GDP. When Greece began its ongoing collapse its debt was 120% of GDP. America’s debt, 50% of GDP when Obama became President, is now at 106% or more of it. And Obama’s ‘solution’ is a proposal to increase spending. Steyn’s goal is to shock people into awareness of the cosequences in hopes of avoiding them, but his pessimism likely is due to his knowledge that half or more of the voters are as complacent as you.
JY,
Sorry to plague your readers even further, but ‘TeamAmerica’ speaks the truth.
The core thesis of Steyn’s latest work is: We are the most broke nation in history.
How do you deal with, or reconcile, that when the markers, pens and watercolors run out?
Jus’ sayin’.
I see Mark Steyn gave you a plug, paragraph and link on his front page, and I bet it’s because of the belly-laugh he got from the bit about cell phones. My sides! That was inspired.
However, obviously when America’s debt curve goes purely vertical by 2027, the country is (as you would put it) fucked. Math may be hard, but you don’t need a degree to understand the problem with out-of-control exponential growth. And it won’t be only the American end of the economic boat that goes under the waves. That’s the main point.
Steyn wouldn’t worry about Muslims if, as in the fifties, they were the defeated, semi-forgotten detritus of history, the peasants by the side of the global highway that you’d whiz past in your American-made shiny technological marvel. But America’s car is breaking down in the worst possible patch of desert. And the women-beating savages there are now armed to the teeth, and racing to have a weapon that will allow them to enforce the long-delayed imperative of their Quran, that is, the divinely-mandated forceful subjugation of you and me.
I truly wish we didn’t have to worry about Muslims, but they won’t have it so. The Quran and Hadiths don’t make very interesting reading, but it’s worth your while to know the program of the people who are on course to dominate you in the near future. Try the verses that start at Sura 33:50. When you’ve stopped laughing, realize that your laughter is a crime under Islam and that violent sanctions for insufficient respect of the Prophet (PB&J) are already being enforced on European streets. Is it pessimism to be moderately aware of what’s going on around you?
Luv luv Mark!
I’ll be going to see him in Toronto.
I’m guessing you won’t be there.
Look me up if you do would like to meet you.
“Were Steyn less paranoid, he might even anticipate the new cultural amalgams that the Middle East might bring to Europe.”
That is funny! I am an immigrant from Middle Eastern Muslim country. Thus, I am supposed to be on the receiving end of Steyn’s “hatred”. Ironically, I am one of his greatest fans, but that is another story.
I wished that you would have engaged him on his statistics-based arguments. But that would require reading his books, which is something smart guys like yourself don’t need anyway.
JY: Mark-as-statistician has been invoked several times now, and I’m not sure what the takeaway is supposed to be. It appears to be this: European countries, their populations shrinking (owing to their own success and the fact that the wealthier you are, the less inclined you are to squirt out a new child every year until menopause) are allowing immigration from less wealthy countries to do the low-skilled work that the leisure class has grown tired of. And since Arabs aren’t shedding their religion like snake skins, there is a corresponding increase in the number of practicing Muslims in Europe.
This pattern is repeating itself, mutatis mutandis, in the United States with hispanics, and exactly the same fears are being stoked: an end to the culture that saved the world, a growing sub-class of dependent sponges, etc. This is of course how conservatives define liberals and the poor as well, so I don’t blame right-wingers for feeling like they are surrounded.
Now, what exactly is the cure supposed to be for this alien invasion? Let’s explore the available options and how conservatives generally respond to them in their rhetoric.
1) Curb Immigration. This will not, of course, alter the demographics that already exist. All-white Christian Europe now has a dark-skinned minority to cope with. We know how Europe has traditionally dealt with semetic peoples, so let’s hope we don’t see a repeat of that. The fact of the matter is that stoking a low-paid, second class labor force is Capitalism 101. If the conservatives want to tackle the genuine causes of immigration, they will have to eat their own.
2) More White People. Brave is the conservative who goes out on a limb to promote the new White Man’s Burden: have more children than you want or can pay for. Mark Steyn has three of his own, and if he adds two more then I will believe he is serious. But hey, show us how its done, righties! Maybe October Baby is part of a PR push in this direction. Conservatives did have a chance to get behind Rick Santorum and begin rolling back contraception laws, but I guess they weren’t feeling it.
3) Cheap Domestic Labor. Europe’s xenophobia regarding its growing immigrant class is nothing new. It is no different than here in the US. The cost of maintaining a lifestyle of comfort– lifestyle where the wealth continues to bubble upwards but the dregs have to be placated, too–is a class of coolies.
Soft-handed leisure conservatives like Steyn, who has never pushed a plowshare or chopped sugar cane, want to have it both ways: an educated, upwardly mobile society but where the laborers are still dumb enough not to form unions or expect healthcare benefits. And when they do, the grunt work is either shipped overseas or delegated to the arrivals from foreign lands. Then the hope is that these new serfs will stay complacent long enough for Steyn (and you and I) to cash out of this world having enjoyed all the cheap iPods and Caesar salads that the Morlocks made possible without ever having been exposed to the culture they brought with them.
Go ahead, turn back the clock if you can. Bring the factory jobs back to the West and somehow build a middle-class economy where Americans and Brits earn pennies a day like Jamaicans and Singaporese. Hey, it worked in The Hunger Games!
The point I am straining to make is, anyone can bitch about this changing world, and even make a killing in pop literature while doing it. Mark doesn’t have any answers for these problems, because if he did, they would involve dealing with issues that conservatives simply will not touch.
Here is again where you got it completely wrong and Mark got it right.
He shows time and again, and yes with what you dread the most, statistics and numbers, that the collapse we are all witnessing in Europe is not because of Capitalism, for all those states are as socialists as socialism can get. They are living the utopia you drool over: yes every single horror of it. He demonstrates that the expansion of the state has one natural outcome: the shrinking of the citizen. Believe me I have been there, and unlike the brainwashed types, I know he is right.
As an immigrant myself, I gravitated to all leftist idea in my first years, simply because that is what I thought was all there, and they felt cool. I considered the left my home and people like you my natural allies, until slowly but surely, the internal contradictions and the rot arising thereof have festered: I had the courage to try the counterculture, I finally understood the roots for the greatness of this civilization, and its distinguishing characteristic, from my own culture.Â
JY: If what you said were true, then Germany (which, to my knowledge, is as “socialist” as other prosperous European nations) would be collapsing along with the likes of Greece. Instead, it is the engine of success that is keeping the rest of the Euro experiment afloat.
The sub-prime mortgage bubble, if you will recall, was inflated and then burst right here in the good ol’ US of Capitalist A, smashing prosperity like the Hulk on angel dust and taking other heretofore successful economies, like Ireland, the “Celtic Tiger”, with it. The crisis in Europe is not based on socialism, but on egregious (and avoidable) mistakes made when the Euro Zone was first established, chief among them ignoring Greece’s fraudulent bookkeeping.
You can argue that capitalism has its ups and downs, but you can’t deny that we are living through the downs.
“The sub-prime mortgage bubble, if you will recall, was inflated and then burst right here in the good ol’ US of Capitalist A, smashing prosperity like the Hulk on angel dust and taking other heretofore successful economies, like Ireland, the “Celtic Tigerâ€, with it. The crisis in Europe is not based on socialism, but on egregious (and avoidable) mistakes made when the Euro Zone was first established, chief among them ignoring Greece’s fraudulent bookkeeping.
You can argue that capitalism has its ups and downs, but you can’t deny that we are living through the downs.”
Did capitalists or Democrats pass the ‘Community Re-investment Act,’ requiring banks to give mortgages to people with poor credit and low income, lest they be guilty of ‘red-lining’ and ‘institutional racism?’ The biggest bailouts were $142b for Fannie and Freddy. In 2003, who warned that this could happen and tried to avoid it? Pres. Bush did. Who successfully led a party-line charge against Bush’s attempts at reform? Cong. Barney Frank did, famously saying “Why do we need to make them (Fannie and Freddie) safe and sound? Why can’t we roll the dice a little longer on subsidized housing?” And so we did.
JY: I have heard this “Community Reinvestment Act” hoax repeated so often that it makes me shoot blood out of my eyes. The CRA, for those of you who don’t know, was a law passed in the 70s to prevent banks from discriminating against QUALIFIED loan applicants who happened to live in poor neighborhoods. The myth that the subprime mortgage crisis was created by the CRA has been thoroughly debunked. The mortgages were rarely generated by institutions covered by the CRA.
Want to know what really caused the subprime bubble instead of… oh, how can I put this gingerly?… blaming it on the bros? I cannot overemphasize the value of this hour of the This American Life program (chase it with this one too, for a better perspective on the Wall Street bailout).