Norway? Way! Nor huh-WAYYY? WAY!!
So, like me you automatically assumed that the terrorist attack in Norway was their 9/11, and you began rethinking your whole “nuking Mecca doesn’t solve anything” stance. Now we learn that it is actually Norway’s Oklahoma City, and you are secretly rubbing your hands with glee because you think that this is somehow an indictment of Sarah Palin.
(I am not the only one who feels this way, people! Stop pretending I didn’t just describe you and go wash your hands.)
So, I want to apologize to the mussulman world for automatically assuming that every psychotic act of blood-drenched vandalism is your fault. I also want to apologize to Norway for taking any satisfaction, even for one mean little second, from this horrible event. Longtime Blockhead Cathrine “Catya” Alvheim is a Norwegian, and so was my first pen-pal Lindis when I was a kid. So this double sucks.
However, we must not simply ignore the implications of this outrage. We are at war with the right-wing Christian world now. That means no letting them build any megachurches near ground Ground Zero. And we need a Constitutional Amendment to prevent the teaching of Christian Law in our schools. (Oh wait, we already have that? Okay, good. That was some good foreward thinking, Thomas Jefferson.)
And while I am a tolerant man, I am not prepared to bottle my rage over this. We’ve seen that mere wars do not sway these sorts of radicals. Extreme as it sounds, I think it may just be time to nuke… um wait, where did Anders Behring Breivik come from again?
Oh yeah. Norway. Time to nuke Norway!
Consider this post my public announcement. I am also sorry for thinking some Muslim extremist was behind this. Again I apologize. I never said anything or posted anything saying this, but inside I was thinking this and this is bad enough, especially for someone like me who doesn’t “jump the gun” and blame without careful consideration of the facts.
I believe “we” are at war with all religions.
Really Muslims? When I first heard bombing and shooting in Norway I thought Nazis. So I now apologize to the Nazis in assuming it was them. Sorry Nazis.
Oh wait a sec, he’s a conservative libertarian, so he might be a Nazi after all. Okay Nazis, the apology is on hold til this gets sorted out.
Not all religions… with crazy fundamentalist derpage. There are PLENTY of religious people who actually READ their holy books and understand the central message of “stop being a bastard to other people.” The nutballs are thankfully in short supply, but they are very loud voices, and get all kinds of attention-whoring coverage exactly BECAUSE they are the minority and scream real loud and do stupid things.
I’ve seen some “atheists” lately who aren’t really atheists, they’re ANTI-theists, and they speak and act just as stupidly as radical islamics or the christian inquisition, only their manifesto is the abolition of all religions, regardless of origin, history, or creed. So crazy fundamentalist derpage isn’t just for churchies anymore. “Atheists” can get it, too.
“We” are at war get crazy, fed-up, frustrated people with an axe to grind who can’t understand why the world doesn’t work the way they want it to.
Most modern religions tend to tell people to suck it up, be a good person, celebrate the good things, endure the bad things, and leave the rest to the spiritual entity of their choice.
He was a Mason, they call their gathering places with such names as the Syria Mosque, so I invoke the Kevin Bacon Rule, therefor we can blame Bush.
That’s the thing… which piece of this man is the evil, bomb-building piece? The Christian? The right winger? The blue eyes?
I am reminded of how different political dogmatists try to blame everything about Hitler on one particular facet of the man. This one says Christianity was the germ of his evil, another says Darwin, a third says Nietzche. Usually we are trying to distract others from how much we ourselves have in common with the lunatic.
Oh Christ… am I trying to be egalitarian or something? Kill Boehner! KILLLLLL!!
I didn’t think of muslem when I heard about it, really! Maybe that’s because I live in Brazil, so we’re not on this xenophobia wave, and we don’t have a terrorist attack for years. Somehow, this guy being from the extreme right-wing didn’t surprise me, especially when I’ve known of the attacks on the Labour Party’s youth camp.
I grew up in a catholic family and every time I was made to go to catechism, every time I had to go to the church, every time I watched religion classes at school (catholic school, ‘f course) I gradually became aware of the absurds they were telling us. Now I’m at a course for doing the confirmation ceremony, just because if I don’t do so I’m gonna get kicked outta home, and I just feel like eating my legs and exploding myself at every shit I have to hear, like “gay marriage is just wrong, god made man and women to fulfill each other”. After that christians say the love everyone. I respect people’s religions, I don’t go about telling them what they should do with their lives and believes, as much as I find them so worng. I just want some of these people to notice that they don’t have the right to treat people who are different from them like they’re wrong, they’re inferior. An that’s just the reason why these attacks happened in Norway.
I can get behind killing Boehner.
I did jump to conclusions as many did but funny thing about okc. Those guys were married to flinopino muslims and had been in philaphines meeting with islamic terrorists. So okc was a poor example.
And wtf has sara palin have to do with this?
As someone who grew up in Norway, my initial reaction was that it had to be either Islamic fundamentalists, or home-grown Norwegian right-wing extremists.
This was partly due to that in the recent past, there has been a lot of anger amongst Norwegians against immigrants. This anger was largely focussed on a number of occasions where asylum seekers had raped and murdered some Norwegian girls who were out celebrating their High School graduations.
Much was made of these crimes, and all immigrants and asylum seekers were tarred with a very broad brush as a result.
In the time since then, the authorities have been going to great lengths to stabilise relations between immigrant populations and the native Norwegians.
However, there is a strong tradition of Norwegian isolationism and nationalism that borders on racism. There are some in Norway who take that step into all-out racism.
Anders Behring Breivik is in a minority. At least I hope he is.
Jebus help us if he isn’t.
I am both an anti-theist and an atheist. I don’t care one whit what people believe privately, and I have no desire to ban religion, as if it were even possible. I oppose supernatural and revelatory religions on the basis of their piss poor track record in regards to human rights, and the fact that they inculcate a rejection of empirical standards, usually through a bizarre compartmentalization of a believer’s worldview. As such, I attack them when they are foisted on the public(e.g. creationism in the classroom, homophobic discrimination, etc.), and ridicule them at all times.
“Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.” – Thomas Jefferson
The real problem of europe is the corruption of the leaderships and the lazyness of banks -_-‘
My initial thought when the attack happened was that it was a Middle Eastern terrorist group (mind you, not Muslim – what Al Qaida and their ilk are is not Islam, but rather a bunch of reactionaries who want to overthrow the government structures in the Middle East and take over with themselves in control. Islam is just a justification by both the terrorists and those who fight them concerning the conflict). I was concerned because I didn’t want the growing right-wing extremist political party that is growing in power in Norway to capitalize on this attack, and I felt they would.
The moment I found out it was a Norwegian right-wing extremist, I felt relief, and hoped that the right-wing extremist party would suffer due to this. Of course, looking more into the beliefs of this psycho, it seems the right-wing extremists were not extreme enough for him. But he still has his roots in that structure.
If there is one thing that happens from this attack, hopefully it will be a moment of introspection from all sides… and the realization that tolerance is desperately needed in order to prevent this sort of thing from happening in the future. Both in Norway… and in the rest of the world.
Tangentsreviews: Based on what I hear from people I know in Norway, your hope is being borne out in Norway.
People there are determined to prove Anders Behring Breivik wrong in every way possible.
In terms of his actions, his beliefs and his predictions for the future.
If anything, it looks as though these attacks are going to result in increased tolerance amongst Norwegians.